Category Archives: Church

COD: Family Quote of the Day

I found a great article about having the family together in worship. Heres a quote and the link.

Worship is the most valuable thing a human can do. The cumulative effect of 650 worship services spent with Mom and Dad between the ages of 4 and 17 is incalculable.–By John and Noel Piper

650 is a very small number. How many have you got left? Enjoy them.


What shall we say then?

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 2By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.–Romans 6:1-4

Between my bouts of finding podcasts and listening to them today I was reading Centuri0n’s blog. I can’t even link to it because I don’t think he wants people to–its not that sort of post. But its on top right now…don’t go read it unless you just really can’t help it. And his warning is for real. The link leads to a post thats bar room/locker room raw.

I’m still trying to figure out if the claims made by this fellow about the Bible are any different than the ones we make about it. I don’t think they are in that they’re based more on our experiences that upon what the Bible says. I lost a child so election can’t be right, I know a drunk so drinking must be evil, “Come on Joe les go blow up an abortion clinic”, etc. Whatever evil we want to hang on the Bible as our reason for doing it–it isn’t any different that what those people who beat up his Dad were thinking is it?

In the end its not the sin of the beaten or the blown up, its our own that causes this sort of thing. We WANT to beat the crap out of that person and insert your rationale here. If I was a good Baptist I’d suggest that perhaps ‘they weren’t saved’ but I think we’ve already established that I’m not that good a Baptist because I think thats a cop out. I think it goes deeper than that. I think its the same reason that the SBC was so opposed to Emancipation to begin with and why now we feel like we have to have someone to fight against ALL THE TIME. I think its the same reason as why we have to have fifty different discipleship programs all based on a some different formula of verses guaranteed to grow your church.

We’re not dead. Not yet. We’re still clinging, as a Convention to our life. We are not satisfied with the risen Christ and the Holy Word of God so we have to make more stuff up to go along with it.

Think about that one. Don’t blow it off, think.


One who is taught the word must share all good things with the one who teaches. –Galatians 6:6

Why do we act like this is a suggestion? Why do we treat our pastors like hirelings? Why do we continually strive against the authority of the Word of God?

Yeah deacons, gossips, busybodies, I’m talking to you. Next time you feel like griping about the pastor’s sermon, take time to talk to him about it. When you find out what all he did that week besides prepare the sermon, offer to help out. When you see that he doesn’t have access to that many pastoral resources, ask him what he needs and find a way to get it for him.

I suppose its easier to just play ‘blame the pastor’. I mean, its the Southern Baptist way right? And I admit, I’ve met some folks who were sloppy in the pulpit BUT, and here the thing we need to hear, I’ve also looked at their congregations and said, “No wonder.”

“But the Word of God is not bound!” Are you?

Oh please.

I’m not a member of the Mark Driscoll Fan Club any preacher talking like that in the pulpit around here would probably get tossed over hand out the back door. But thats here in the Bible belt.

But here’s a whole world away from Seattle Washington. If my home county was paved over and you stacked folks three deep over the surface the population might get as high as Seattle. And the inhabitants aren’t nearly as nice there as they are down here. They’re a rough crowd. But they need Jesus. How about this, rather than griping and fussing about how they do it up there, lets go on up there and start a ‘proper’ church with elders–if you can find any who are qualified–and the whole shebang and see how long it lasts.

I can see the other side of this to, so don’t get me wrong. The same issues apply. Is there any real disciple making going on? Have they, as the Hindus did, just imported Jesus into their ‘groove’? I’m not actually in a position to respond to these questions because I have never been to Seattle or preached there–which can only be a whole different experience than it is here in Oklahoma.

I like Tim Challies ‘trajectory’ comment. I think it fits and I think it reminds us to remove the logs before we pluck at the splinters.

I have to think of the demon possessed man that Jesus healed, then left behind. Do I know why he did that? Nope. But I’ll bet it was because he was the one who could minister to those folks best. You know, the pig raising Jews who were so upset over their lost profits that they asked him to leave. Face to face with Jesus…I can’t get a grip on that one. But the man who was healed could. Think about that one for a while then, rather than griping publicly, lets look around and see why we’re not reaching out to the folks where we live and why we’re not all about discipleship and planting churches and things.

I just read this and thought it applied.

Psalm 130

Psalms 130
1 Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord!
2 O Lord, hear my voice!
Let your ears be attentive
to the voice of my pleas for mercy!
3 If you, O Lord, should mark iniquities,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness,
that you may be feared.
5 I wait for the Lord, my soul waits,
and in his word I hope;
6 my soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen for the morning,
more than watchmen for the morning.
7 O Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.
8 And he will redeem Israel
from all his iniquities.

May the Lord bless you as you go to worship him this day.


Every now and again I get frustrated with some things. The SBC is one of them. But I want you to know, whoever you are, that I dearly love my church. I love Southern Baptist Churches because their members are so hard headed and yet can be so soft hearted. I’m the same way, at least from the hard-head part.

So when I get down on them enough that it trickles over into my writing I know its time for an attitude adjustment. Rather, my attitude gets adjusted and then I realize that it was the Lord working to soften up my hard heart all along. No I’m not getting all charismatic on you and saying I had a revelation so just put your hands down and quit it already. What I am saying is that God still works in and through and on his people and his church even if I am too short sighted to see it.

And if I can’t get an amen on that one then we’ve got a problem. Or as one of my pastors once said, “If that don’t light your fire, your wood’s wet.”

The Sacred Cow Grill

OK. So the issue I was discussing yesterday has already bobbed to the surface in my comments. The dreaded phrase sufficiency of scripture. And don’t get me wrong, because scripture is sufficient. But I think we—and that’s the SBC we—are not really getting the point.

You see, I didn’t even know there was a conservative resurgence taking place in the SBC until it was, technically, over. From what I read in blogola that means that they have officially shot all the wounded, buried them in unmarked graves and stampeded a herd of scapegoats over the burial site to cover their tracks. I read about it for the first time on Tom Ascol’s blog over at Founders—which of course immediately marks me by association for some folks—and I was shocked. Well, I mean I laughed out loud because my first thought was “Wow, if this is what the church looked like after the resurgence it must have been a disaster before.” And my second was “I just can’t really say that with a straight face.”

It’s not that I’m not grateful for those who have gone before because I truly am. I recall my own conversion and it’s almost laughable. I’ll have to write about it sometime. But the main fellow involved was most definitely a revivalist and what that means to me is that he preached an evangelistic message with an emotional invitation and mood music to get people to respond. I can’t really complain too very much about that because I heard the gospel and believed it and was changed. Can’t explain it other than God can and does use anything for his glory.

You see, the problem with that sort of mindset, that sort of revivalist mentality is really evasive. It compartmentalizes our Christian lives into “Sunday, Wednesday, and Special Events”. The idea of scheduling a revival falls into that last category. The deadly part is that when the Falls Creek church camp effect wears off, you have people who just don’t feel saved anymore. This is our wide open back door folks. This is our problem as a church and as a convention. Our salvation is based on our decision.

What scares me the most is my own mind. I know when I make a decision, it’s a fairly dynamic event. What that means is I can leave the house wanting a chili dog but by the time I get to Sonic I’m dying for a cheeseburger. See what I mean?
We’ll talk about why this is a problem tomorrow.